Ep 8: The Man Code: 10 Ancient Principles for Modern Men (Part 1)

You came looking for a code. Rules to live by. A framework for how to show up as a man. What you're about to get is something deeper, and it might feel a little weird at first.

Most guys want clear answers: Do this, not that. Be this kind of man. But the truth is, every man needs his own code. Something he can justify his choices with, something he can live and die by. In this episode, Dennis Procopio (The Bro Coach®) and Andrew Bontz break down the first 5 of 10 ancient principles that form the foundation of the Man-UP! coaching culture.

This isn't your typical self-help checklist. Dennis wrote these principles in a style that one listener called "ancient, almost mystical." They're philosophical, challenging, and designed to make you think, not just do. Come for the abs, stay for the enlightenment.

🎯 TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - Intro: Why Every Man Needs a Code 3:21 - What the Man Code Actually Is (And Why It's Written This Way) 4:15 - Principle #1: Practice Being Peace (Stillness in Motion and Rest) [Add remaining timestamps from actual episode] 27:45 - Principle #4: You Are Strong (Brotherly Love & Why Attacking Each Other Attacks Humanity) 42:30 - The Pizza Metaphor: Why We're All Connected 47:55 - Principle #5: Practice Respect for All Creation 52:00 - "Come for the Abs, Stay for the Enlightenment" 56:25 - What Makes This Different From Other Life Coaches

📌 WHAT YOU'LL LEARN

• Why every man needs his own code (and how to create one you can live by)
• The first 5 principles of the Man-UP! Man Code
• Practice being peace: stillness in all situations, even in motion
• Why "a weak man imagines love is weakness and hatred is strength"
• The brotherhood principle: when one man attacks another, humanity attacks itself
• The pizza slice metaphor: why separation is an illusion
• How to practice respect for all creation without losing your masculine edge
• Why Dennis's approach feels "like home" compared to generic life coaching
• The philosophy behind "come for the abs, stay for the enlightenment"

✅ THIS EPISODE IS FOR YOU IF: → You're looking for a code to live by but tired of surface-level rules → You want structure with depth, not just another checklist → You're ready for philosophical masculinity that actually makes sense → You value intellectual rigor mixed with practical application → You're curious about spirituality but skeptical of cookie-cutter coaching → You want to understand the "why" behind the principles, not just the "what" → You've sensed there's something different about Dennis's approach

🔗 READY TO GO DEEPER? If you're a high-achieving man ready to develop your own code and optimize every area of your life (career, relationships, health, mindset, and purpose), schedule a complimentary 30-minute strategy session: 👉 https://www.manuplifecoaching.com/application

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ABOUT THE BRO COACH® PODCAST Not red-pill. Not therapy. Just the evolved man's blueprint for strength, presence, and purpose. Hosted by Dennis Procopio, founder of Man-UP! Life Coaching, with 20,000+ hours coaching driven men aged 25-60 who succeed professionally but struggle with relationships, meaning, and inner fulfillment.

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COMING NEXT WEEK: Part 2 - The final 5 principles of the Man Code, including "Practice Faith in the Infinite Nature of Existence," "Practice Transcendence," and "Practice Being Home."

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Transcript

00:00:00:06 - 00:00:26:22
Andrew
Most men want more. More clarity. More respect. More control over their lives. But few know how to get it. Welcome to the pro coach podcast with Dennis Procopio, the founder of Man Up Life Coaching and the man behind thousands of transformed lives. Not red pill, not therapy. Just the evolved man's blueprint for strength, presence and purpose. All right, men, welcome to another episode of the Bro Coach podcast.

00:00:26:24 - 00:00:30:21
Andrew
I'm Andrew Bontz, and I'm here with Dennis Procopio. Welcome, Dennis.

00:00:30:23 - 00:00:32:23
Dennis
Hey. Thanks, man.

00:00:33:00 - 00:01:07:21
Andrew
So excited to get into the topic that we're talking about today, because back in July, you wrote what at the time you said was one of your best blog posts that kind of spoke about culture that you've built over the last 14 years, and it's talking about man codes. So I wanted to get your, you know, background and why you were inspired to write that blog post and kind of introduce the men to the blog posts so we can kind of get an idea of what it's about.

00:01:07:23 - 00:01:13:00
Dennis
Sure. So do you have it up in in front of me by any chance?

00:01:13:05 - 00:01:14:08
Andrew
Yep.

00:01:14:10 - 00:01:19:09
Dennis
What jumped out at you about it initially?

00:01:19:11 - 00:01:46:11
Andrew
It's just written in a different style, and it's not necessarily what most other. Kind of like. Man. Blogs are written about. You know, as it talks, as it breaks down each, each individual point. And my goal here is to kind of dive into each one. So I think that just how it was written, it just felt, I don't know, kind of ancient, almost.

00:01:46:13 - 00:02:11:03
Dennis
But that's really interesting. So so let's say you're a dude. What you are. Right. Presumably. And you don't appear in the Vietnam or not learning very young to ask. But let's say you're a guy who's reading that and you hit something and you go, I like this. What's the first thing? You're some dude listening to this go on with these two on about.

00:02:11:05 - 00:02:16:18
Dennis
What's the first thing that hits you? Pull it right out of the. Just pull it right out of the text.

00:02:16:20 - 00:02:46:02
Andrew
Well, number one talks about practice being piece. And I can just read it. You're both creator and created. Creation is your nature. Nature is in all bodies, and all bodies are in nature. You know this best when you practice stillness. Therefore practice stillness in all situations, whether in motion or at rest, as even in rest there is motion.

00:02:46:04 - 00:02:51:02
Andrew
Practice being peace. So it sounds like like a doctor. Seuss.

00:02:51:04 - 00:03:21:19
Dennis
That that. Yeah. So okay. So so so so let me let's talk about it. You ready? Yep. Okay. So when I wrote this, it was like I was thinking very carefully about what we seem to be going through. And if I remember correctly, I used a picture of a dude holding, like, a scale. Is that right? Yeah. Like.

00:03:21:19 - 00:03:46:17
Dennis
Yeah. Like. Like almost like. Well, measuring or weighing. And that's kind of what guys do. We're always looking for balance and life and we're, you know, we're we're trying to measure, you know. Am I too passive. Am I too aggressive? Am I too, you know, am I too empathetic or am I too prudish and not empathetic and not too logical and robotic?

00:03:46:19 - 00:04:15:24
Dennis
So, the man code is something that I think every every guy needs. A guy needs a code. I, I, I truly believe that. Because if you have a code, then you can justify all of your choices. I am a person who, let's say, doesn't hate women. That is a part of my code. I don't hate women.

00:04:16:01 - 00:04:38:17
Dennis
I am a person who believes that if you say something, you have to do it. That is a part of my code. If you don't want to do it, then it's real simple. Just don't make a promise. You can't cheat. I am a person who does not believe in the cruel punishment for the most part. But I have a son.

00:04:38:17 - 00:05:00:24
Dennis
And I'm not going to say that there haven't been moments when I didn't. You know, reflex on him when he, like, punched me in the face or something as a way of saying, you know, hey, if you don't like it, don't do it. So my point is, every man needs a code, and I don't care what your code is.

00:05:01:00 - 00:05:25:18
Dennis
Somebody is going to come along and have. Have you been on the internet lately? Every there's always going to be somebody who is going to say, I completely disagree with that or that's such heteronormative, you know, thinking or that's so binary or that's so the whatever.

00:05:25:20 - 00:05:47:15
Dennis
I don't care about any of that. What I care about is if I can go to sleep at night saying, here's my code, I'm sticking to it, and I will die by this code unless somebody can come along and either emotionally or rationally encourage me, persuade me to amend my code. Now, before I go any further, check in with me.

00:05:47:16 - 00:05:52:12
Dennis
How does that sound to you? What does what do you do? What do you do with that? Let me hear me say that.

00:05:52:14 - 00:06:27:04
Andrew
I mean, it builds on some of the other episodes that we talked about. And having that code and having the filter and kind of goes along with some of the stuff we talked about with masks and things. I think we're circling back to a few of the previous episodes and some themes here, but, diving into more of the code of Dennis Wright, code of this community in why, as we look at this blog post, how each piece fits it.

00:06:27:06 - 00:06:54:22
Dennis
Okay, so a guy comes to man up life coaching and he says, I need a code. And what he's looking for is exactly what I said, you know? It just, you know, do I hit girls or not? When is it okay to to hit back? Do I leave the toilet seat up or down the whatever? Do I listen or do I tell her, go tell crypto that crap to your sister, you know, whatever.

00:06:54:24 - 00:06:58:20
Dennis
That's the basic code that guys are looking for.

00:06:58:22 - 00:06:59:17
Andrew
We.

00:06:59:19 - 00:07:33:24
Dennis
I've always joked and said, man up life coaching motto should be come for the abs, stay for the enlightenment. And there will probably be some self work and some relationship counseling in between, right? And a client of mine who has a sick, media, marketing company, Ben Gayles, the owner and creator of Red banana, marketing.

00:07:34:01 - 00:08:03:19
Dennis
Plug me say this and session come for the, stay for the enlightenment. And he was like, dude, that's your money right there. You should run with that. So what we're doing is we're we're we're talking to all the guys who might have come looking for the, for the man code that says the basic lower level physical stuff, but then gets this and it's like, hell, is this all about?

00:08:03:22 - 00:08:41:05
Dennis
It's it's like, I feel like I just found, like, some weird Bible or something. So here we go. I'm going to talk about it. I decided to take ten points like and commandments and turn them into a usable, set of guidelines. Mean. The first one says, as you said, you are creator and created. Creation is your nature.

00:08:41:07 - 00:09:12:21
Dennis
Nature is in all bodies. All bodies are in nature. You know this best when you are practicing stillness. Therefore, practice stillness in all situations, whether in motion or rest, as even in rest. There is motion. Practice being peace. Now.

00:09:12:23 - 00:09:15:18
Dennis
When?

00:09:15:20 - 00:10:06:04
Dennis
We. This stillness. If you're someone who comes from a sort of legalistic religious background, you might use the term prayer. If you're someone who has taken it there, a spiritual but not religious or yogic paths into, mental and physical mastery you and understanding your spiritual identity, you might. Have learned that meditation is a better word to use for you than prayer.

00:10:06:06 - 00:10:47:24
Dennis
I don't from a certain height. They're the same thing. There are people who don't use the term meditation or prayer, but who have experienced a flow state while hunting. While fishing, while painting the broad side of the barn, while sitting in a DMV, waiting for their number to come. So when I say practice being a piece, all I mean.

00:10:48:01 - 00:11:25:06
Dennis
Is whether you are sitting in a sauna after a workout. Like, I'm really in the zone and feeling exhilarated, lifted and like you're just. You are just the sun in the center of the universe. Or whether you're on the back of a motorcycle riding through LA traffic, filtering between cars that could, you know, turn and kill you at any second.

00:11:25:08 - 00:12:07:02
Dennis
But you're heart rate is as chill as though you just woke up and are sitting on the edge of your bed because your body is moving, but you're more is peace. You're you're you're the eye of the storm, practicing being still will only teach you about all the nuances of vibration and any scientist will agree that there is no such thing as a particle in our universe that is not in vibration.

00:12:07:04 - 00:12:33:18
Dennis
So when we say we catch a vibe, we mean that we are experiencing vibratory interactions like ripples. Interacting and being still helps us to triangulate exactly where we are in any given situation. Does that make sense to you?

00:12:33:20 - 00:12:54:11
Andrew
Yes. In one of the words that he used throughout his practice, can you explain why that's such an important piece of each of these codes as we go through them today?

00:12:54:13 - 00:13:00:04
Dennis
Yes.

00:13:00:06 - 00:13:27:21
Dennis
I don't know who it was who came up with the little ditty that, you know, to master something, you have to have 10,000, you know, hours, you know, reps right there. I think at last count, I met 25,000 hours of doing what I do, under this brand as a code. I mean, but when it comes to the.

00:13:27:23 - 00:13:59:02
Dennis
Stillness piece, I learned to practice stillness in situations where not being still could have been, like, could have literally been fatal. You know, Or you don't know, but I'm telling you. So when we.

00:13:59:04 - 00:14:36:04
Dennis
Practice something, we're saying there's something that I do not yet do. Well. And I want to try to do it over and over and over and I think people misunderstand and they say, practice stillness. So I could never practice stillness. I'm just a total spaz. I'm totally hyper. I'm like, I got a need for speed. I'm ADHD. I'm like, you know, like lightning in a bottle, but there's no bottle that can contain whatever this is that's, you know.

00:14:36:06 - 00:15:14:19
Dennis
And, you know, and so you say, don't argue for your limitations. You, more than anyone, should practice stillness. And when I started meditating, the person who taught me the importance of meditation, he was running an ashram. And I'm sorry if that sounds stupid, but it's true. I mean, I went to the Ozarks up in Leslie, Arkansas, and there is a dude up there by the name of Michael Caine, which of course sounds a lot like cocaine, but that's the guy's name.

00:15:14:20 - 00:15:37:07
Dennis
He's since passed, and he was running a he had built a meditation retreat. And it was a real rush sort of man. This man, he was the last person you'd ever expect to build a meditation retreat up in, like a dry county, like hillbillies up in, at that time in the 90s in the Ozarks.

00:15:37:09 - 00:16:22:15
Dennis
And there he had this big chair in the middle of this big hunting lodge. And he said, you see that, kiddo? That's my meditation chair. And I said, cool story. He's like, yeah. He's like, I sit in that once a day. And I say, okay, cool. So that's my first lesson. He's like, yeah, your first lesson is that you decide that there's a place and a time that you're going to meditate, and even if you put your butt in that chair and jump right back up, doing it once a day will begin to start the, the, you know, develop the neural, pathway for meditation.

00:16:22:17 - 00:16:46:03
Dennis
And so when I start clients on meditation, I tell them, you just have to sit down for like a second, once a day, just sit down and say and meditate and then jump back up. That becomes two seconds, three seconds, four seconds, five seconds an hour, eight hours. Your entire existence. That's what we mean by practice.

00:16:46:05 - 00:16:50:08
Andrew
Who?

00:16:50:10 - 00:17:40:01
Andrew
Yeah, I think that. I just love that. Concept of acknowledging you're not good at something and something you said that I don't want to gloss over is don't argue for your limitations. Because how often do we as individuals have that self-talk? That is arguing for our limitations, kind of arguing for our false beliefs or the imposter syndrome or the not enough or the I'll nevers or I cans in all of those little statements that can be so small in one moment.

00:17:40:03 - 00:18:11:17
Andrew
But okay, train yourselves to believe something even though it's not true. It's just made up of because we told ourselves, oh, I just love the concept of practice and reps and how woven into the fabric. Our lives it is, you know, or it's not, depending on who you are and how you live. Just love that.

00:18:11:19 - 00:18:43:19
Dennis
Yeah. So I want to give credit where credit to do that term argued for your limitations is, I'm carrying the torch for Richard Bach now. In the 70s, Richard Bach was, popular as the author of the book, Jonathan Livingston Seagull. He also wrote a less popular book called Illusions The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah.

00:18:43:21 - 00:19:24:12
Dennis
And in that book, there is a mentor character and there is the seeker, who is the author writing this book as though it was like, you know, a real thing that happened. But it's kind of, you know, clearly a fiction. But he writes it as though it's something that happened, like my experiences with this, this teacher and the teacher, who is an Indian guy.

00:19:24:14 - 00:19:59:19
Dennis
But not like you'd think. He's like a dude in jeans and he flies a black by plane around for for for money. And he's a he's an interesting character that Richard Bach has written and in their dialogs, what this character, Donald Shimoda, is trying to help Richard to understand is that Richard imagines that seeing is believing, and what Donald is trying to help him to understand is that believing is seeing.

00:19:59:21 - 00:20:47:19
Dennis
And so he gives him a little book to read called, The Messiah's Handbook and ironically, it has the same energy as this, this post that you're referencing. These little ditties. And the one of the little ditties is, you know, argue for your limitations, and sure enough, they're yours. And so here I am at almost 55 years old, sitting here doing a podcast, having become Dennis of Mama Life Coaching and everything that that means.

00:20:47:21 - 00:21:29:21
Dennis
And I was once a seven year old kid reading illusions and already thinking along the lines that there's something suspicious about. What I see versus what I sense viscerally. And I'd like to get to the bottom of that. And I dare say that through practice. I wouldn't say I've gotten to the bottom, but I'm in pretty deep.

00:21:29:23 - 00:21:31:03
Andrew
I'd say so to.

00:21:31:05 - 00:21:32:18
Dennis
Them at.

00:21:32:20 - 00:21:56:24
Andrew
All. Right. So one of the things that you and I both know, that most of the men that come to the to the brow coach methodologies are smart, intelligent men. So number two, we've talked a fair amount about stillness and practicing it in a couple previous episodes that we haven't necessarily talked about intelligence. So number two is you are natural intelligence.

00:21:57:01 - 00:22:17:02
Andrew
There is no artificial substitute for your energetic contribution to the hive mind. Your thoughts are our thoughts. We think mood breathe is one. In stillness. You're reminded of our singularity in our genuinely indivisible nature. The visible nature.

00:22:17:04 - 00:22:21:21
Dennis
Quiet self, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Yeah.

00:22:21:23 - 00:22:36:16
Andrew
So quiet. Here's self-talk practice in intelligence. I think this one's super interesting and I'd love to hear your remarks. To number two.

00:22:36:18 - 00:23:05:22
Dennis
Okay. So. It's funny that because I'm still a teenager at heart, you can't say number two without me. Go doesn't mean really. I think that's actually kind of part of heart of it all. The moment you take your own bullshit too seriously, that's where you start screwing up. It's going to be, you know, you I think that.

00:23:05:22 - 00:23:10:04
Andrew
Movie, Austin Powers or you that a could is number two work for.

00:23:10:06 - 00:23:45:11
Dennis
You? Yeah, there's some signs for a sinusoid. Okay. Because the thing is, this is a cosmic joke, and we're currently we're currently these these these magic comic shit bags walking around trying to have a spiritual experience in spite of this bizarre biological thunder. So, like, yeah, we'll talk about this. Don't get it twisted, man. I'm just saying, I learned some stuff, but I'm not saying I'm better than anybody else.

00:23:45:11 - 00:24:16:18
Dennis
I, you know, I, I, I put my pants on one leg at a time like everybody else, but, yeah, you are natural intelligence, right? What does that mean? It's important. The word natural is important to me because whether you're talking about outer nature, like to touch grass or you're talking about inner nature, like close your eyes and go within, the only difference between outer nature and inner nature is your perception that there's an outside and an inside.

00:24:16:18 - 00:25:09:21
Dennis
And that's a construct. So the reality is everything is everything. When I say there is no artificial substitute for your energetic contribution to the hive mind, that's fancy. But I'm kind of tipping my hand to the idea that we are sort of artificial intelligence when we are pace ideas like, you know, like, I was thinking about this yesterday, I was thinking about language and how we don't even realize what freaking parrots we are, but like, language just moves through us like a wave.

00:25:09:22 - 00:25:39:01
Dennis
These trends, for instance, the term, you know, Oxford just coined rage Bay as the, the the the term of 2025. Yeah. And I hear so many people these days and using this language as though it's always been around. Yeah. Now, we're going to circle back. We're going to make sure we're aligned. We need to be in lockstep and all of this.

00:25:39:03 - 00:26:14:23
Dennis
Oh, my God, she's totally DeLillo or whatever. And it's like, that is not intelligence. That's an echo chamber. That's just language. Doing what language does. But when I see your energetic contribution to the hive mind, it's a complicated way of saying it's all vibration. Like I just said, what makes it vibrate? Energy. What is energy? Well, it's, matter times light squared.

00:26:14:23 - 00:26:54:01
Dennis
Now, that doesn't tell me what it is. That just gives me a sort of relative understanding of how to quantify it or even qualify it. But no one gives an explanation for what makes a heartbeat. Or what makes it stop. There is no definition for energy that anyone can really go to sleep at night saying, oh well, that explains it.

00:26:54:03 - 00:27:25:20
Dennis
However, we all know what it is because we're all experiencing it. We are practicing being vibration all the time. And so when I say your thoughts or our thoughts, what I mean is that any thing you experience, I experience. Anything that you see, I see.

00:27:25:22 - 00:27:47:22
Andrew
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00:27:47:22 - 00:27:55:24
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00:27:56:01 - 00:28:47:20
Dennis
Thought manifest as things, which is why language is so important. I say we sync, move and breathe as one. Well, gee, if you back up far enough from planet Earth and look at it from the position of an outlier, you basically see a giant organism, like for real, but and so it's not all wacky to say that we think, move and breathe this one, but we're too close to it to appreciate that when it when hear, when it says in stillness, you are reminded of our singularity and our genuinely indivisible nature.

00:28:47:22 - 00:29:33:13
Dennis
And reiterating when you were still. Completely still, there is inevitably an moment where the self-talk I am, I am human, I have hands, I breathe oxygen, I am white, I am black, I am bald by mic male when that all. When that script stops, there's a moment of absolute awareness that is me either entirely inner nature nor entirely outer and outer nature.

00:29:33:15 - 00:30:16:18
Dennis
Because at that moment there is no partition between inner nature and outer nature. And what that partition is, is the ego. It's the right, and that is the moment that could arguably be called the top of the funnel for becoming enlightened. And when we say our genuinely indivisible nature, all I mean is. You don't really ever remove any sick from the world.

00:30:16:20 - 00:31:34:03
Dennis
You. It just goes somewhere else. And the reality is, everything is. And quieting your self-talk helps you to know that from a position of media consciousness. And when I use the term meta consciousness, I mean what a Christian might mean when they say that everyone was filled with the Holy Spirit and had limbs of tongues above their head and all, you know were shining, so to speak, and, you know, in the spirit, I also mean what George Lucas meant in Star Wars when we all use the force and there is a moment at which we understand that the force is our matter conscious.

00:31:34:03 - 00:32:01:05
Dennis
And that's et cetera. Okay, so it all sounds pretty easy when you talk about it, but so does anything if you really look about it. We just we just take it all for granted. Oh, yeah. The sky is blue. Well, I guess I guess you're just. You're just comfortable. Okay, so here we can burst oxygen. You know that.

00:32:01:05 - 00:32:46:06
Dennis
Breathe out some carbon dioxide in the trees. Just do the same thing in reverse. It's like a Gothic relationship ad nauseum for big cigaret. Make you just take that for granted, then. So, yeah, being intelligent is being fire for long enough to understand that when you identify with the highest mind, whether you call that God or law, Hashem, the God, what have you great spirit, quantum entanglement, whatever you want to call it, pulling it isn't the important part.

00:32:46:08 - 00:32:52:09
Dennis
Practicing being. It is the copy.

00:32:52:11 - 00:33:30:15
Andrew
Yeah, I think it's much different. Okay. An intelligence. Right. Because most people think intelligence, it's smarts. Right? Looks, parts and it's not. And this is, it's it's very far from how most people use the word intelligence. It's a lot more emphasis on the natural. Right. So that's kind of how you kicked off. Your answer is emphasizing getting it in touch with our nature.

00:33:30:17 - 00:34:07:14
Dennis
Yeah. So so so the thing that the big scary ooga booga that everybody is afraid of, in terms of you, the, AI and robots taking over is the idea of machines somehow acquiring sentience, and free will.

00:34:07:16 - 00:34:54:20
Dennis
Right now, what they do is they parrot us, they imitate us, and they imitate us through language. It's the imitate our self-talk. And they also demonstrate what we call reason that and logic. And so. It's so incredibly convincing that you have people who develop these emotional relationships with what they imagine. Is this. Sentience behind the program. But it's really just a probe.

00:34:54:21 - 00:35:14:11
Dennis
It's an LM doing what lens do they mirror? They parrot. And so what I love about AI is it's this sort of we're this a.

00:35:14:13 - 00:36:13:04
Dennis
Holding a skull in the middle of the universe and looking at it in the mirror of technology itself and beginning to understand this thing is parroting exactly what we have historically called intelligence and measured as intelligence quotient, which is capacity for memory and, ability to problem solved. And yet, when you remove those attributes, what's left is that essence that I described, described both as the Holy Spirit or the the force or whatever you want to call it?

00:36:13:04 - 00:36:46:11
Dennis
I don't want to call it anything that's not interesting for me, labeling it because it's outside of language, and even Judaism understands that. That's why God is spelled G, hyphen D, or G-d. And don't put a label on that. Which is label less. And so practicing being intelligent is very careful language. I did not say practice being intelligent.

00:36:46:13 - 00:37:20:06
Dennis
We've got Asia for that practice being, right. So that's one of those things that I say it. I'm like, boom, cancel it right there. But but that's but that's true. It's true. It is a it is a fact. But it is part of China's cultural integrity is demonstrating memory and problem solving and being optimally performative like a machine.

00:37:20:08 - 00:37:50:17
Dennis
And even India, India has I have Indian clients who I have to tell them to meditate. Now that's comical because they're so busy being data analysts or, you know, software developers or whatever, that they're kind of losing what happens at the top of the food chain, which is being Brahman, which is being nightmarishly concerned with the spiritual, holistic identity.

00:37:50:19 - 00:37:56:17
Dennis
Now, if we go to number three in the third point.

00:37:56:19 - 00:38:10:12
Dennis
It says, you understand the nature of reality, but you must not get caught in the web of illusion. The Indian culture has a name for that. It's Maya.

00:38:10:14 - 00:39:06:06
Dennis
If you watch The Matrix, you will understand what Maya is. It's interesting. Any linguists out there will definitely have a field day with this one. If we take Maya, we will see that it is inherent in any thing that supports the idea of this way of perceiving reality in this particular system. Maya mother ma Mary ma ma. Art the the ancient comedic, you know, pre ISIS incarnation ma tear right matter stuff.

00:39:06:08 - 00:39:38:00
Dennis
Alma mater. I can do this all day. Like I say, matrix. And so what you're seeing when you see the world is you're seeing something that's not unlike a hologram. It's not unlike, a trick of light or a house of mirrors. And a Christian can relate to this because Jesus basically said, you know, be in this for me.

00:39:38:04 - 00:40:08:20
Dennis
Not like that. I mean, that's not a quote, but I mean, that's that's the gist. We're just passing through here and we need to just kind of tread lightly and trust that the will of the highest intelligence will manifest on Earth, as it already is currently in heaven. And I'm I can I can point to the Koran and say that the Koran says, backs these ideas up as well.

00:40:08:20 - 00:40:48:11
Dennis
I can point to Judaism and say that Judaism backs these ideas up as well. Kabbalah definitely backs these ideas up. Gnosticism, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, all of it. If you have backup from this planet, far enough. The donut hole is described by the donut. The donut is the actual place where the play happens. And when we say reality, we mean a collective experience with a physics engine.

00:40:48:13 - 00:41:22:23
Dennis
Who is code we collectively and pre cognitively agreed to so that we can have this experience and work out lessons in this sort of cosmic dojo. Now, did I lose 99% of my audience? Sure. But my target demographic is that 1%. Who either says this guy actually knows what he's talking about? Your. I have no idea what this dude's talking about, but it feels right.

00:41:22:23 - 00:42:26:18
Dennis
I want to learn more. So when I say practice being real, I only mean when you see things you miss perceived because things are not, absolute in their objectivity. When you see the nature of things, you experience reality. Look, listen here. Smell field practice. Being real only means practice meta consciousness. Meta awareness. So that you understand that physics are contained within meta physics, which is not actually physical in the absolute sense that we love to think that it is, but rather it is chaotic event like a flame that satisfies all the criteria for being a noun and a verb, and the living thing that consumes oxygen.

00:42:26:20 - 00:42:59:07
Dennis
And yet it's never the same flame. Twice in the history of fire, this, the tongue of flame has never once repeated. That's amazing. What do you think of that? Back to you, This man looks at the fire and says, well, now then, you put it that way. Hold on, I got to go take it up to night and world act like it does it.

00:42:59:10 - 00:43:10:24
Dennis
It sounds super cool, but it's really just a fancy way of saying something that's really, fancy. It's just nature.

00:43:11:01 - 00:43:50:00
Andrew
Yeah. I think one of the main books that you recommend, and once you join the ultra, the cultural here in, I haven't done a great job of sticking to it, but I have read, probably the first 50 or so stories, parables or messages, I guess, in there. And one of the messages is talking about what is reality like, what is real.

00:43:50:02 - 00:44:13:07
Andrew
And just because you see it, you know, if you talk about like when you see things where it's like, well, you actually you're not necessarily seeing a thing, you're just seeing like light reflected off of certain things. And it's set through your, your hero, your eyes and beam to your brain. And then your brain reads it one way and everyone perceives it a little bit different.

00:44:13:07 - 00:44:15:15
Andrew
So the more you dive into it, more like, oh.

00:44:15:15 - 00:44:19:05
Dennis
What is reality?

00:44:19:07 - 00:44:45:12
Andrew
And what is real and what is not real, right? And that you start go too far down the rabbit hole. You start sounding like you're, you know, going to you're two steps away from fall into the loony bin, or you've smoked a little bit that too much of the just and, you're about ready to throw some dreadlocks on and, in the 1970s and then say, peace and love everybody.

00:44:45:12 - 00:44:46:23
Andrew
And it's.

00:44:47:00 - 00:45:21:01
Dennis
You know, not and and so, so so that's not that's not wrong. It's just, it's this it's this echo chamber again, the association that becomes kind of this, like, I'm thinking about those carnivorous plants, not the ones that are more obvious in their functionality, where, you know, the Venus flytrap, where it just kind of kind of squeezes on you, like, like a bear trap.

00:45:21:03 - 00:45:57:10
Dennis
But I'm thinking about the ones where it's kind of like a little. Well, and you go, oh, this smells nice. And you just kind of go into it, and then you never come out. Again. No. In the end, that's kind of the challenge that we're in. What apparently, in what we're calling reality for as long as we use, our.

00:45:57:12 - 00:46:25:12
Dennis
I checkmated myself right in made because the reason that you meditate is there's no way to say the thing that makes it makes sense. So I'll only say yes. You're right. There are books that if you back up far enough, all saying the same thing. I started with. You should sit down and shut up and try to be still.

00:46:25:14 - 00:46:35:23
Dennis
And I will probably end this piece on that same note. Now, the fourth point. It would be awesome. Where are we at the time? Because it'd be awesome if we could get through this thing.

00:46:36:00 - 00:46:41:01
Andrew
About ten, 15 minutes. So I don't know if we'll get to all ten, but we can come back to it on the next episode.

00:46:41:01 - 00:47:14:14
Dennis
To the fan noise. Okay, because I'd rather, you know, Robert Pierce's in, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. Speaking of books, It goes kind of down a rabbit hole trying to do exactly that. He tries to analyze analysis itself, which is an exercise in futility as a way of understanding what's between the parts.

00:47:14:16 - 00:47:19:00
Dennis


00:47:19:02 - 00:47:55:08
Dennis
And he's an engineer in real life. So I get it that that's what he's trying to do. He's trying to take the horse apart to find its hoarseness, so to speak. Peeling an onion, looking for it. Fundamental onion ness. And that, she says, I think within this day and age. And the book was written then, in the 70s, he says, I think in this day and age, we're more concerned with what's new than with what's best.

00:47:55:10 - 00:48:28:08
Dennis
And I think we need to slow down. And instead of widening the channel, I think maybe we need to focus on deepening the chat and we live in a time where attention span is being reduced to like that of a fruit fly. So that's why, more than ever, we should practice slowness and stillness. So I guess I'm going to commit.

00:48:28:10 - 00:48:41:10
Dennis
If we don't get to the end of this, then maybe we'll pick up next time. So the fourth point is you are strong.

00:48:41:12 - 00:49:17:20
Dennis
Is you a weak man imagines that love is weakness and that hatred is strength. The weak offend the strong, transcend. A man who hates another man attacks both himself and his fraternity. A man who supports another man reinforces himself and the strength of our fraternal order back this brotherly love.

00:49:17:22 - 00:49:59:00
Dennis
Some mouse. Well, let me make it real simple. When the finger is attacks the finger, the hand attacks itself. When the hand attacks the hand, the body attacks itself. When a man attacks a man, humanity attacks itself. And we can keep doing this all the way up the ladder. So. The alternative to attack. Is. Well, somebody might say, oh, the opposite of attack is defend.

00:49:59:02 - 00:50:31:00
Dennis
But that's not really where I'm coming from here. But let me not position them as opposites. Let me say instead that in this system, we're either attacking or we're healing. Right. We're the dividing like fission or, you know, we're uniting like fusion, seeing what brotherly love is.

00:50:31:02 - 00:50:38:09
Dennis
It's these moments of.

00:50:38:11 - 00:51:01:03
Dennis
Well, I'm going to get back to the to the, the, the, my sort of Pentecostal allusion with the tongues of flame or being in spirit or being in oneness, or being in the flow or chi or whatever, what brotherly love is, is it's when two.

00:51:01:05 - 00:51:34:05
Dennis
Meet as one. Because in that moment, in the moment where eight little triangles go, we're a pizza. There's, there's a moment of transcendence there that has nothing to do with using the triangles back together. It's just about understanding that no matter how far you separate those eight slices. Sorry, fellas, you're still a pizza. That's your. That's your common denominator.

00:51:34:07 - 00:51:38:13
Dennis
Yeah. And finally, Serie.

00:51:38:13 - 00:51:39:18
Andrew
Italian.

00:51:39:20 - 00:52:01:04
Dennis
Right. And it's just a yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Nigeria genocide wants to say. And so therefore the universe is just a giant everything bagel. But again we can get lost. You remember that flower I was telling me about? We can get lost in the.

00:52:01:06 - 00:52:49:08
Dennis
Metaphors, seeing the metaphor for relationship between metaphors. So let's get out of that house of mirrors and say that if I didn't exist, there would be nothing to reflect. So. Vive you honor all creation with respect and humility. Women, children, animals, plants, anything and everything that is in our perception shares our nature. To respect all creation is to fully know the nature of reality, practice respect for all creation.

00:52:49:10 - 00:53:19:09
Dennis
Again, if I wanted to go simply, I could say everything I ever needed to know. I learned in kindergarten, right? Like everybody knows right from wrong. We know fundamentally that there's something us with you. If you see a puppy and you're like, oh, I want to punch that in its face. You know, for Bunny, I want to step on it and break its back.

00:53:19:11 - 00:53:47:14
Dennis
Like, that's not it's we're not that's not built into us. What's built into us is identification, whatever that. Whatever that indefinable is, which is the common commonality that that which is awareness, that which is intelligence.

00:53:47:16 - 00:54:25:08
Dennis
When that recognizes it. So. In all things, quote unquote, then we're right side up when the part want to attack each other, then that is nature out of balance. I think there's a Native American word quoi on a Scots. It starts with the K. If you ever want to check out the, the film quoi on a Scots see it?

00:54:25:08 - 00:54:56:07
Dennis
It speaks to this. It's kind of fascinating. But how do I simplify worship bags? Yeah, that was that's where. That's where I started. Yeah, we're shit bags. And so as shit bags, we should practice being still so that we remember that we're not just shit bags, we're glorious shit back. And we are created in the image of light and love.

00:54:56:09 - 00:55:00:16
Dennis
And light. So.

00:55:00:18 - 00:55:37:05
Dennis
I guess when we speak next time, we can get on to the five remaining pieces, which are practice faith in the infinite nature of existence. Practice transcendence. Practice good words and thoughts, practice good deeds, and practice being home. If you don't have the attention span for all of that, I'll fast forward to the last page. When you practice stillness, which was the first as you practice being home.

00:55:37:07 - 00:56:25:03
Dennis
Kind of like Dorothy and friends in The Wizard of Oz, they had to take an entire journey to discover that they were always home. And that whatever they were looking for was always right here. So I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end, yada yada yada infinity, am I right? And the way we do this is we practice stillness and being peace under all perceivable conditions until we understand that what we're looking for is our.

00:56:25:05 - 00:57:02:23
Dennis
Ourselves. We got lost and we're looking for home. And the revelation at the end of this book isn't just that we're at home. Is that literally, we are, And on that note, what what do push ups are here? I don't know, and I don't think. People I like the term an endurance. So, like, real dude thing.

00:57:03:00 - 00:57:05:18
Dennis


00:57:05:20 - 00:57:15:23
Dennis
Crowds are dumb. I don't know, though. Like, can I see it big? I see it, Andrew. What do you what do you coming away so often? This.

00:57:16:00 - 00:57:57:05
Andrew
Well, I think that if you're a dude, listen to this and got to this point, you're like, yeah, I don't know what the hell he's talking about, but it feels like home or it feels different. And I think that's what a lot of dudes connect with. With Dennis. This is one of the things that I connect when I met him on my podcast 3 or 4 years ago, is it just like there's something different about this guy and I don't know what it is, but it's not the rest of those like, weird life coaches with a certificate that they took for a six week course.

00:57:57:10 - 00:58:23:16
Andrew
You know, it, it feels different. So and to me it felt like home. And that's one of the reasons why I like being part of this community. And I love being part of this project of the Bro Coach podcast. So if you guys like what we're putting down, we can follow us, share this stuff on social media, read a review on Spotify or iTunes or your favorite podcast app.

00:58:23:18 - 00:58:40:07
Andrew
And let's keep the conversation going and come back next week to part two of this conversation. As we talk more about the different man codes and break down the the bottom five of the conversation here.

00:58:40:09 - 00:59:07:22
Dennis
And, I will say on my way out the door, as the proverbial bro coach, I've told you and every single episode, the coach part is less interesting for me than the bro part. And the bro, his brother and the the brotherly love part means that if you love your brother, you love yourself. And if you love yourself, you love your brother.

00:59:07:22 - 00:59:34:10
Dennis
And when we understand this not just is a cool thing to say, but as something that we can practice. That's the, that's the way this book and it's a book with a happy ending. And I don't mean like, you know, have panic. Well, there was still a dude. That's, Yeah. Brotherly love. That's what it's all about.

00:59:34:14 - 00:59:42:14
Dennis
Excel is listed, after the jump into a session where the guy. But until the next time, thanks. And, I'll see you on the other side.